[Oz-gifted] Ability grouping

[tony nolan]

I dont disagree with your reasoning, and I think that both systems could 
work, I was wondering if there is a way to combine them, to have a mixture 
of both.

Do you mind if I take this idea to the Federal Minister of Education, 
Policy Committee meeting as a suggestion for debate, and if so, would you 
like to flesh out the idea a little more ?

Regards
Tony


At 02:37 PM 23/11/2005 +0800, you wrote:
>Thanks Tony,
>I understand that age grouping is the easiest way to group kids. I can 
>also see how one of the largest obstacles to ability grouping would be the 
>parents, especially those who feel their kids are a lot more talented than 
>they actually are. But in the long term I can see that ability grouping 
>could be beneficial. On the flip side I can also see it could cause problems.
>
>Thanks
>Kristy
>
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>>
>>G'day Kristy,
>>
>>I remember this from Teachers College but it was an answer a long time 
>>ago to a slightly different question.
>>
>>Thus it went,
>>
>>That age classification and grouping is the most objective way to group 
>>students, with very little subjectivity about which classification to be 
>>inserted into, once the classification has already been established. It 
>>was a fast way of grouping without argument or confrontation, where every 
>>body knows the boundaries, etc.
>>
>>The other reason i heard about was because of size / physical ability / 
>>emotional ability of the child when involved with its peers in the class 
>>room. It appeared that the main reason for the classification was not so 
>>much about learning ability, but more about Risk Reduction in the class room.
>>
>>I think the age system has been in for a very very long time, and that 
>>these days we also use learning ability, learning disability, and even 
>>nationality, culture / religion to sort out classrooms. I guess this is 
>>because that the original schools were set up with a very limited variety 
>>or range of students considered, as schools were usually in towns, or 
>>villages, etc.
>>
>>Anyway, this is what i remembered as to why Age was used as the basic 
>>classification system for students.
>>
>>Regards
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>
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