[Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping

[Alison Miller]

> Kristy
> Then you get the problem of getting to the top of the grouping, and having
> nowhere to go.  BTDT with my son at the moment.  Timetabling means he
misses
> out on other stuff.

must be bADLY TIMETABLED! My school abilty grps english./maths and they have
sport/ music together.
alsion
>
> Lynda B
>
>
> >From: "Kristy" <ankone at bigpond.com>
> >Reply-To: oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au
> >To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> >Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping
> >Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:34:33 +0800
> >
> >Hi Lynda,
> >
> >Not sure. I brought it up to see what others had to say about it as I
didnt
> >know alot. I think ability grouping across the whole school would be too
> >difficult to program as you suggested. Early on it was mentioned about
> >combining age and ability grouping and I think this would help with the
> >timetabling. Grouping across two or 3 years for example as the basis.
> >
> >Kristy
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "L B" <lmb400 at hotmail.com>
> >To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping
> >
> >
> >>Kristy
> >>Just a thought.  I am for ability grouping, but are you suggesting
> >>differerent groups for different abilities.  For example would a child
be
> >>in a different grouping for maths and english/reading?  How would you
> >>timetable this?  Would you have the whole school doing maths and english
> >>at the same time?  How would you timetable everything else in, such as
> >>sports using limited resources (that only one or two classes can use at
a
> >>time)?
> >>
> >>My son has been accelerated from his kinder class for maths, up to year
2
> >>now, and logistically it has been difficult. He has had to miss certain
> >>classes of his kinder stuff to do it because the streaming is usually
done
> >>across years 1 - 2, 3 - 4 and 5 - 6, although in ability groups too (so
> >>the top ability group in year 2 may be doing year 3 or 4 work).
> >>
> >>Lynda
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Kristy" <ankone at bigpond.com>
> >>>Reply-To: oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au
> >>>To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE:  Ability grouping
> >>>Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:45:58 +0800
> >>>
> >>>Just had another thought.
> >>>
> >>>Education should enable a child to learn and develop to the best of
THEIR
> >>>ability. Ed systems still seem stuck on giving all children the same
when
> >>>the needs of the children differ. Why introduce, for ex, algebra to a
> >>>child that has not yet master basic addition or multiplication because
> >>>this is what 'needs' to be taught to this age/year group? Wouldnt this
> >>>child benefit from being with a group of kids all of similar ability
who
> >>>need to spend more time with the basics so they can master them?
> >>>Similarly why should children in the higher spectrum be stuck repeating
> >>>concepts they have already mastered because the harder concepts are not
> >>>taught until a year or two later? If they were ability grouped it would
> >>>allow the children to learn at a pace that suits their needs.
> >>>
> >>>I am repeatedly told that the curriculum framework allows for this and
> >>>that each child will be given work for their own level but I dont see
> >>>this in practice. There is some ability grouping within my childrens
> >>>classes but its hard for the teachers to program for such varying
needs.
> >>>Within each class they have children from the entire spectrum. How is
it
> >>>possible for one teacher to manage such a range of needs for so many
> >>>children without some missing out? With ability grouping the teachers
can
> >>>focus on one ability group.This would have to be beneficial both for
the
> >>>teachers and children.
> >>>
> >>>uh oh, think I am on a mission here. Appointment with our schools
deputy
> >>>on Monday to throw some ideas around with him lol.
> >>>
> >>>Kristy
> >>>
> >>>
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