[Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping

[L B]

Alison
I think part of the problem is that his ability is 2 years higher than his 
"age" grouping, and they only stream across 2 years.  So he needs to be in 
an ability group with the next age group up.  Hopefully it will change a 
little next year, although he only has one group higher in this stream to 
move to, then he would be placed into my dd's group (not sure she would be 
happy with that - although she is working at least a year ahead of her age 
grouping).

Lynda


>From: "Alison Miller" <rmil6566 at bigpond.net.au>
>Reply-To: oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au
>To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
>Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping
>Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:21:26 +1100
>
>
> > Kristy
> > Then you get the problem of getting to the top of the grouping, and 
>having
> > nowhere to go.  BTDT with my son at the moment.  Timetabling means he
>misses
> > out on other stuff.
>
>must be bADLY TIMETABLED! My school abilty grps english./maths and they 
>have
>sport/ music together.
>alsion
> >
> > Lynda B
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kristy" <ankone at bigpond.com>
> > >Reply-To: oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au
> > >To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> > >Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping
> > >Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:34:33 +0800
> > >
> > >Hi Lynda,
> > >
> > >Not sure. I brought it up to see what others had to say about it as I
>didnt
> > >know alot. I think ability grouping across the whole school would be 
>too
> > >difficult to program as you suggested. Early on it was mentioned about
> > >combining age and ability grouping and I think this would help with the
> > >timetabling. Grouping across two or 3 years for example as the basis.
> > >
> > >Kristy
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "L B" <lmb400 at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:05 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE: Ability grouping
> > >
> > >
> > >>Kristy
> > >>Just a thought.  I am for ability grouping, but are you suggesting
> > >>differerent groups for different abilities.  For example would a child
>be
> > >>in a different grouping for maths and english/reading?  How would you
> > >>timetable this?  Would you have the whole school doing maths and 
>english
> > >>at the same time?  How would you timetable everything else in, such as
> > >>sports using limited resources (that only one or two classes can use 
>at
>a
> > >>time)?
> > >>
> > >>My son has been accelerated from his kinder class for maths, up to 
>year
>2
> > >>now, and logistically it has been difficult. He has had to miss 
>certain
> > >>classes of his kinder stuff to do it because the streaming is usually
>done
> > >>across years 1 - 2, 3 - 4 and 5 - 6, although in ability groups too 
>(so
> > >>the top ability group in year 2 may be doing year 3 or 4 work).
> > >>
> > >>Lynda
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "Kristy" <ankone at bigpond.com>
> > >>>Reply-To: oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au
> > >>>To: <oz-gifted at rite.ed.qut.edu.au>
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Oz-gifted] RE:  Ability grouping
> > >>>Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:45:58 +0800
> > >>>
> > >>>Just had another thought.
> > >>>
> > >>>Education should enable a child to learn and develop to the best of
>THEIR
> > >>>ability. Ed systems still seem stuck on giving all children the same
>when
> > >>>the needs of the children differ. Why introduce, for ex, algebra to a
> > >>>child that has not yet master basic addition or multiplication 
>because
> > >>>this is what 'needs' to be taught to this age/year group? Wouldnt 
>this
> > >>>child benefit from being with a group of kids all of similar ability
>who
> > >>>need to spend more time with the basics so they can master them?
> > >>>Similarly why should children in the higher spectrum be stuck 
>repeating
> > >>>concepts they have already mastered because the harder concepts are 
>not
> > >>>taught until a year or two later? If they were ability grouped it 
>would
> > >>>allow the children to learn at a pace that suits their needs.
> > >>>
> > >>>I am repeatedly told that the curriculum framework allows for this 
>and
> > >>>that each child will be given work for their own level but I dont see
> > >>>this in practice. There is some ability grouping within my childrens
> > >>>classes but its hard for the teachers to program for such varying
>needs.
> > >>>Within each class they have children from the entire spectrum. How is
>it
> > >>>possible for one teacher to manage such a range of needs for so many
> > >>>children without some missing out? With ability grouping the teachers
>can
> > >>>focus on one ability group.This would have to be beneficial both for
>the
> > >>>teachers and children.
> > >>>
> > >>>uh oh, think I am on a mission here. Appointment with our schools
>deputy
> > >>>on Monday to throw some ideas around with him lol.
> > >>>
> > >>>Kristy
> > >>>
> > >>>
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